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And unlike Kosovo, which was NEVER Albanian, California was originally Mexican. It was their land to begin with.

Good riddens.

Although I suspect that Texas will seek independence most certainly, considering that many believe Texas being taken and made part of USA was illegal.

I think also, there are people who will greatly welcome Russian proposal -

http://www.independentcalifornia.com/
http://free-california.blogspot.com/
http://calrepublic.tripod.com/
http://www.californiasecession.org/
http://www.alternet.org/story/14531

TO MILA:

That's false history.

California was Spanish, then Mexican for some 35-40 years. It was vastly uninhabited and undeveloped. Mexico then initiated a war with the USA, lost it, SIGNED a formal treaty acknowledging that the territory belonged to the United States:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Guadalupe_Hidalgo

Furhtermore, Mexico ACCEPTED willingly compensation for land involved in the Gadsen Purchase.

The United States' acquisition of the territory was on the up and up, and remember that it was Mexico that started the Mexican-American war, not the other way around.

The independence so much of Kosovo as California has the same objective.
There is "globalizated" in the world that they want to destroy to the christians or European, it is generally the same.

http://www.ateney.ru
http://www.honsik.com (deutsche)
http://members.libreopinion.com/nuestravoz/hi87.html (spanish)

Mila...I doubt the best way to preserve Kosovo as a province of Serbia is to give CA to Mexico. There are definite parallels between the two but I believe priority at this time should focus on halting the root cause...that is the insufferable arrogance of the so-called "world community" consisting, of course, of most of the political elitists of the world...I probably don't have to enumerate them all...but we know they're currently headed by George Bush and his State dept and Congressional "toadies". And he was preceded in that roll by "toadie" Bill Clinton, etc, etc. This business of the west screwing over Serbia has been going on a long time, even before Tito as I'm sure you're aware.

So what's my point anyway?? I guess what is happening on the US Southern border under recent presidents is similar to what happened to Kosovo under Tito where the man (Tito) encouraged illegal entry by Albaniac muslims and, I believe forcibly displaced/removed Serbs and others in order to bring about a population "inversion"...a muslim majority. In effect Serbs and others became refugees in their own land. And the psychopath albaniac muslims now demand independence.

This is basically what Bush is doing to Southwaest US. Approximately 70-80 percent of the US population oppose Bush policies. If the US population had access to the facts of what is going on in Kosovo, the same 70-80 percent would oppose Bush there as well. In spite of what many may think, Americans do NOT approve stealing territory from a Christian nation and giving it to a pack of islamic cutthroats. Some of our politicians do. Guys like McCain and many others who are on the jihadist payroll do.

So, in spite of the massive opposition toward Bush's "mindless" US illegal immigration amnesty policies...since he no longer has to stand for reelection...he in his most insufferably arrogant style seeks ways hoodwink, sidestep public opinion and implement his amnesty.

This precisely parallals his "game plan" for Kosovo where he plans to give the kosovo albaniacs the nod to unilaterally declare independence when the UNSC vote fails.

Never trust a rat who applauds democracy when it works for him, but sidesteps and usurps the democratic process when it obstructs him. In the US, the ballot box has temporarily become irrelvant.

Bottom line: The US may be getting dangerously close to the point where its citizens must again resort to voting with their trigger fingers instead of the ballot box. Hopefully Americans will soon wake up and elect legitimate patriotic leadership before the poor Serbs who have already seen far far too much suffering throughout their history have to do the same to hang onto Kosovo.

As a Mexican-AMERICAN, all I can say is what a bunch of BS!!!

Aztlan means different things to different Mexican and/or Mexican-American ppl.

While there are indeed some extremists who harbor irredendist ILLUSIONS, I do not not take them any more seriously than ppl in dixe who proclaim ; The South will Rise Again!!

What would be the purpose of such revanchist notions anyway???

Ahem, wouldn't the ppl that want to live in MEXICO just move THERE??? While those of us that wish to live under the US Constitution would remain here...in the USA???

Debating the US-Mexico war of the 1840s is tantamount to discussing the Peloponnesian war of ancient Greece. Nevertheless, I do recommend reading this speech, given by Illinois Congressman (later US President) Abraham Lincoln on the floor of the US House of Representatives on January 12, 1848;

Abraham Lincoln Speech: The War with Mexico

http://www.animatedatlas.com/mexwar/lincoln2.html

That said, its freaking HISTORY!!! Ppl will have different views and opinions...like the Peloponnesian War of ancient Greece!!

But I will say this; As a US Army vet...if and when the day ever comes that extremists "Aztlaners" take up arms to "re-claim" the US southwest for Mexico...I'll be fighting on the US side!!!

So there are strong arguments against returning California to Mexico. Well, there are arguments, how strong they are is a matter of opinion. As a comparison to the Kosovo issue however, it still stands that unlike California and Texas, Kosovo never was part of Albania or any other state for that matter, and was always the ancestral cradle of the Serbian nation. So what right does the US have to offer Serbian land to terrorists, of all people, but has a full claim to territories that once did not belong to them? It is a question of comparison rather than being the best option. We cannot sit idly and agree that one set of International rules applies to US and another to Serbia. It's like the proverb; "Live by the sword die by the sword"! The US cannot expect to dismantle other sovereign states using brute force, in the Ottoman Empire fashion, without coming to grief herself.

The purpose of posting this article here was to illustrate how it feels to have part of one's country gifted away by those who have no right to make such gifts to anyone, at any time.

Itzcoatl seems ready to go to war over preserving California within the United States and would like for Mexicans who are not happy in States to go back to Mexico.

Matthew figures Mexicans can never again lay claims to California, since they signed that land away.

In fact, I'd wager most Americans would be up in arms in a blink of an eye if Mexicans were to arm themselves and demand secession of a single foot of American soil. And, frankly, I don't blame them - I know the feeling all too well.

As Mila and Bozidar said, Kosovo-Metohija was always part of Serbia, it never belonged to Albanians officially or unofficially, "uninhabited and undeveloped" or fully inhabited and advanced.

But when Serbs go to war to free their own land from Muslim terrorists and foreign insurgents, they get bombed by the Americans for daring to protect their people and country. When they tell Albanian separatists who hate Serbia to go back next door, to their own Albania, the whole world starts foaming at the mouth in defense of the Albanians from the nasty Serbs, screaming insults at Serbs and calling them nationalists, fascists and thugs.

"Do onto others as you would want done onto you" - until the Great Powers learn that basic lesson of humanity, we'll have all the problems we do, and plenty more.

Well said Svetlana.

When the boot is on the other foot, it is sort of all different now.

''Oh well, its false history, Mexicans signed the land away bla bla bla''

What about Albanians making up the false history, then selling it to everyone, particularly West, who swallow it and don't question it. Why would anyone EVER question the genocidal tendencies of the Serbs?

The only time history seems to matter, is when American borders are in jeopardy.

I didn't make up those websites, I quoited them.
Serb claim over Balkans and Kosovo precedes existence of America and its claim to California and Mexico by many hundreds of years.

Why should Russia favor California? It should let South Carolina be independent first! Here are a few good reasons:

1. South Carolina declared its independence December 20, 1860. It is about time somebody recognized that fact!
2. Moscow is closer to Columbia than it is to Sacramento, so their respective ambassadors would not have to travel as far.
3. More people in South Carolina would appreciate independence than in California.
4. It would draw attention to the fact that USC has stood for University of South Carolina before it stood for the University of Southern California.

Come on Russians; get your priorities straight!