Another Setup

"Kosovo is Serbia" rally in Belgrade was so massive that all the streets and bridges surrounding National Parliament building were filled with people who could not reach the plateau where the gathering was held.
Was Thursday Attack on US Embassy in Belgrade a Setup?
According to the Serbian media, investigators of the Serbian Interior Ministry have found hand-drawn maps pointing to the streets and buildings of the US and other embassies in Belgrade in the pockets of a group of vandals who were arrested in Thursday riots.
Serbia's Interior Ministry has confirmed their investigation is focused on the identity of a group of young men who were caught with rather unusual maps after instigating violent riots at the same time when half a million Serbs were gathered in the state capital to peacefully protest imposed dismemberment of Serbia, and as the procession of over 500,000 peaceful demonstrators streamed out of St. Sava Cathedral where they attended the prayer service. The investigators are currently trying to determine under whose authority and instructions were these men sent to create chaos in the streets of Belgrade, effectively taking the world's attention off Serbia's massive and dignified protest, and refocusing that same attention to the outburst of violence that occurred in the shadows of the big event.
“According to our investigation, apart from setting fire to the embassies and consulates, these individuals intended to draw citizens that were attending a peaceful rally in the downtown Belgrade, in the violence. The first outbursts have started in the midst of a rally, while the demolition and attack on embassies occurred when citizens started returning from the St. Sava Church,” Serbian Interior Ministry investigators explained.
They have discovered that a number of those who were engaged in the violent attacks on embassies have not attended the large rally in front of the National Parliament building and never intended to attend the scheduled peaceful demonstrations, but to instigate violence.

Common Prayer, Moleban for Kosovo and Metohija, was led by Metropolitan Amfilohije and Bishops of Serbian Orthodox Church at 7p.m., after the rally. Feb. 21, 2008, Belgrade, Serbia
“We are currently investigating the identity of those who were arrested and analyzing the objects found on them at the time of arrest. Some among them have attempted to justify the maps they carried as a means of finding their way to the big rally, since they are not from Belgrade. But they could not explain why, instead of having maps with directions on how to reach the National Parliament building where the rally was held, it was the diplomatic buildings that were marked on their maps, e.g. the US Embassy and those belonging to Croatia, Slovenia, UK and Turkey,” one of the investigators told the media, under the condition of anonymity.
The police is also looking into the arrestees' biographies and dossiers, as well as their contacts abroad.
“Some of the arrestees have very interesting biographies and contacts, and we are currently also looking into their connections abroad,” the MIF investigator revealed.
The investigator would not say whether the police and Serbian national security services are suspecting or have discovered the involvement of the foreign factors and foreign secret services in the outburst of violence.
“We are following every lead and every possible connection right now,” he said.
Until the investigation is finished and we learn the results, we might want to consider few questions:
- Which state officials/leaders are rapidly losing all credibility and every shred of moral "high-ground" and would, therefore, tremendously benefit from showing the Serbs as the actual bad guys once again?
- Who has been most eager to milk the outburst of violence in Belgrade, until our eyes and ears start bleeding of their righteous indignation and "moral outrage"?
- Theoretically, if one would want to take the world's eyes off the flood of criticism aimed at Washington these days and off the entire Serbian nation standing up in protest against this last act of molestation, what would be the best way to "turn the tables" and re-direct some of that anger at Serbs yet again?

Serbia stands in prayer for its southern province of Kosovo and Metohija
- In theory, if one would want to distract the world's attention from a spectacularly massive peaceful gathering of over half a million people protesting the great powers' brute force, what would be the best way to show the actual victims in a negative light and turn them into "perpetrators"?
- Who is getting desperate for failing to force Serbia to take few steps back and resign to the loss of the most precious part of its state, instead of continuing the very serious, unanimous resistance?
- Why would the Soros-owned and funded B92 and each of the Soros employees in Serbia insist on mercilessly clogging Serbs over the office burned in the US embassy on that evening, allowing it to entirely overshadow the incomparably more massive and more important event that took place at the same time?
- When you think of Thursday, February 21, when all of Serbia stood up in common prayer in face of the latest injustice of the world's Empire, do you remember the ocean of people testifying that Kosovo is Serbia, or the pictures of a hundred young men torching the office in American embassy in Belgrade?
Consider also another angle from which the issue ought to be viewed:
In a Tale of Two Embassies, UK journalist and commentator Neil Clark reminds of another embassy in Belgrade that was brutally attacked by a savage gang of thugs.
American author Jeremy Scahill in his latest article The Real Story Behind Kosovo's Independence reveals that “the greatest crime against any embassy in the history of Yugoslavia was committed not by evil Serb protesters, but by the United States military.”
Comments
Very good Svetlana, the truth has to come out and that quick.
This isn´t the first time CIA MI5 and Soros-media work hand in hand and this is the right time, i think, for Serbia as Russia have done, to once and fo all expose and restrict Soros and american funded ngo´s.
Posted by: jimmy | February 24, 2008 09:59 AM
I have a sneaking suspicion that this was organized through LDP trolls (Ceda Jovanovic) who are known as "CIA party" in Serbia. The big rally that was expected to gather a million people was announced days ahead, everything was known: where will it take place, at what time will it start (5p.m.) and when the biggest common prayer will begin in and around the St. Sava church (at 7p.m.) Whoever figured it would be "beneficial" if the massive peaceful rally could be turned into a bloodbath (as it was intended), had plenty of time to plan and organize.
If it proves correct that the domestic CIA/MI5 exponents were involved, they are as good as dead.
Posted by: Svetlana | February 24, 2008 11:23 AM
Hello,
the following is "off topic" - my apologies from the outset for its length - but it is so important to get this out as it is extremely disturbing. It concerns the credibility of a supposedly "Serbian" writer named Vladimir Arsenijevic who was born and raised in Croatia.
I don't know if you have ever heard of him but apparently the Albanians who are proponents of an independent "Kosova" (Kosovo) use his article "Our Negroes, Our Enemies" quite a lot on their blogs and websites in order to demonize the Serbian people.
I thought you might be interested in reading the following comment by Max Rosenthal of the pro-Israel "4International-Unity of Serbs and Jews" blogsite concerning the credibility of this Vladimir Arsenijevic.
It really leaves me uneasy now as to what the truth really is about Arsenijevic's ulterior motives in writing what he does. I really am worried now to say the least about whether Arsenijevic was telling the truth or not as I am a strong supporter of Israel and the Jewish people and I am very aware that Soros propagandizes aggresively against Israel.
Please spread this comment as far and wide as you can in the blogosphere.
best wishes,
Dave.
http://4international.wordpress.com/2008/02/21/massive-protest-today-in-belgrade
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Julia,
you introduce Vladimir Arsenijevic’s piece with the phrase,
“No Comment”
Well Julia, “No Comment” indeed!
Especially “No Comment” from you informing us about the irrefutable fact that Vladimir Arsenijevic has been a PAID PROPAGANDIST for GEORGE SOROS’ “Open Society Institute” since BEFORE 1995! (George Soros’ O.S.I. has been described by independent US based researcher,Jared Israel, as “kind of a high-profit wing of the CIA”).
“No Comment” from you about the fact that Vladimir Arsenijevic also gets PAID for his anti-Serbian propaganda through the “Stefan Batory Foundation” which Gerorge Soros founded many years ago and lavishly finances this foundation of his through Soros’ multi-billion dollar O.S.I. “Open Society Institute”!!
To see some brilliant exposes on George Soros’ multi-Billion dollar propaganda machine in action against the Serbs and Serbia, see the following links:
http://www.swans.com/library/art7/ga110.html
http://nato-media-lies-exposed.blogspot.com/2006/01/srebrenica-atrocity-video-natasa.html
http://www.swans.com/library/art6/ga092.html
http://web.inter.nl.net/users/Paul.Treanor/HRW.html
“No Comment” from you Julia, informing us of the proven indisputable fact that during the 1990’s Vladimir Arsenijevic was also a PAID propagandist for “OTPOR” - the CIA created and funded (with millions of US dollars) totally phony “grass roots Serbian student organization” - which was exposed in the late 1990’s by independent researchers in the US and Europe as in reality NOT a “grass roots student movement” at all, but actually the CIA’s key “fifth-columnist” Serbian traitors’ organization working towards the toppling of Slobodan Milosevic’s Socialist party government on behalf of EU and US Imperialism.
Arsenijevic touts himself as “a Serb” supposedly being impartial,neutral and unbiased towards his Serbian brethren in Serbia, but he was born and raised in CROATIA -a hotbed of Croatian Ustasha Fascism - for much of his formative years and on top of that he wrote that piece largely based on the ramblings of an ALBANIAN writer named Xhevdet Bajraj!!
Here are just three examples I found of Vladimir Arsenijevic being a PAID PROPAGANDIST STOOGE of George Soros, by doing a quick search on Google:
The “Soros Yugoslavia Foundation” PAID Vladimir Arsenijevic and several of Arsenijevic’s traitorous fifth-columnist cronies in Serbia, the sum of US $12,888.77 in the year 1995.
http://snap.archivum.ws/dspace/bitstream/10039/6252/1/REPORT95.doc
In 1995, this sum of money for ordinary Serbs in Serbia struggling to survive under an economic embargo was astronomically high since Serbian citizens from May 1992 were suffering under strict US and EU imposed economic sanctions leading to rampant monetary inflation and resulting in thousands of deaths of elderly people and young children due to lack of basic medicines and medical equipment.
Soros’ Open Society Institute [O.S.I.] “East Translates East” Project has PAID Vladimir Arsenijevic the sum of 400,000 Hungarian Forints [Ft] in the year 2001.
http://www.soros.c3.hu/dont2001/426ok.htm
George Soros’ Stefan Batory Foundation PAID Vladimir Arsenijevic the sum of 6,000 Polish Zloty [PLN] in the year 2002 under the auspices of the Soros funded “East Translates East” Project and the Soros funded “Czarne Publishing House”.
http://www.batory.org.pl/english/about/ar2002/13.htm
http://www.batory.org.pl/doc/ar2002.pdf
http://www.czarne.com.pl/nowe/index.php?LANG=eng&Array
Here is a very revealing comment made by one of Soros’ Czarne Publishing House’s officials [Monika Sznajderman] commenting on where on earth they get their money from:
[Start Quote Here from Monika Sznajderman]
How, in a country [Poland] with such a small readership, to run a small press publishing this kind of literature and not to go bust? “Not to think about money!” laughs Monika Sznajderman, “because I don’t think about money in lump-sums, I can afford daydreaming.”
In reality they depend a lot on grants. Translations from native literatures are promoted by counterparts of the Polish Adam Mickiewicz Institute, which are affiliated to the ministries in the countries of the writers’ origins.
For instance, Exuvii by Simona Popescu from Romania was
published with the financial support of the OSI [Open Society Institute] -Zug Foundation, OSI [Open Society Institute]Center for Publishing Development (Budapest), and Stefan Batory Foundation, as part of the “East Translates East” project.
“It’s not true, as some think, that such grants secure a new car as well,” explains Monika Sznajderman, “the money covers the translation fee. But there are still costs of editing, printing, promotiong, and so on, to be paid.”
[End Quote here from Monika Sznajderman]
Julia, how long did you think you could fool us with the anti-Serbian ramblings from someone who has been PAID BY GEORGE SOROS and THE CIA to write anti-Serbian propaganda (i.e. total LIES)?
So Vladimir Arsenijevic is supposedly a “neutral, unbiased, impartial Serb” ?? Sure he is. And the Pope is Jewish too huh?!
To see how much of a despicable, brazen and shameless paid propagandist LIAR this Vladimir Arsenijevic really is, one only need to consider this comment of his about the so-called Kosovo “Freezer Truck Hoax” which was brilliantly exposed by Dr. Francisco Gil-White back in 2005 as an anti-Serbian NATO/EU propaganda fraud.
Here is Vladimir Arsenijevic lying through his teeth about this thoroughly debunked NATO/EU propaganda hoax:
[Start Quote here by Arsenijevic]
“A few years ago the [Soros-funded]Serbian media reported for months on end on mass graves whose dead had been identified by forensic experts as Kosovo Albanians. One of the most horrific images was that of a refrigerated lorry out of which murdered Kosovo Albanian women, children and old people were disposed in Lake Perucac, near the mouth of the river Derventa. On our screens we saw half-decayed, clothed corpses being pulled out of the water, we heard the shocking confession of the driver, who had been told to transport the dead out of Kosovo in order to cover up the crime…”
[End Quote here by Arsenijevic]
http://wheelville.blogspot.com/2007/11/decade-of-brainwashing.html
Well dear 4International readers,have a look at Dr. Francisco Gil-White’s introduction to his highly detailed expose of this crude anti-Serbian NATO/EU propaganda hoax:
[Start Quote here from Dr.Francisco Gil-White]
On April 30th 2001, an accusation began that the Serbs under Slobodan Milosevic had supposedly shipped thousands of dead bodies in freezer trucks from Kosovo into other areas of Serbia to hide them from the forensics hired by the Hague Tribunal (ICTY - International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia).
It was an extraordinary claim for NATO, but so was NATO’s embarrassment: the Hague Tribunal forensics had found exactly zero bodies of Albanian civilians murdered by Milosevic’s forces (as opposed to, say, 100,000, or 500,000, which had been the earlier NATO claims). So which is it? Did the Serbs carry out a spectacular cover up? Or did NATO simply lie?
Well, NATO clearly had a motive to lie, because it needed to get President Slobodan Milosevic tried at The Hague for war crimes, and an absence of evidence of war crimes is a bit awkward under these circumstances. NATO also needed to justify the bombing of Serbia as a humanitarian expedition to save all those Albanians whom the Serbs had supposedly been murdering. So a double motive. And there is no question that NATO had opportunity, because its disproportionate amount of power makes it likely that NATO can get away with a lie. So the only question is whether we have a smoking gun that NATO lied.
We do. This series will lay out the evidence that convicts NATO of creating a hoax of a genocide, followed by a hoax of a cover up, all of it blamed on the Serbs, with the help of the terrorist KLA, and with the help of the Western mainstream media.
The Serbs are innocent.
The facts don’t match the accusations
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On March 24th 1999, NATO began bombing Serbia. Why? NATO said: “for humanitarian reasons”: to stop a genocide.
Even as it dropped its bombs, in order to justify dropping more, NATO alleged that Slobodan Milosevic’s forces were dodging enough NATO explosions to kill as many as 100,000 Albanian civilians.[1] In fact, sometimes they said 500,000.[1a] Consistent with this, during the bombing, NATO had its own Hague Tribunal issue an indictment against Slobodan Milosevic for “war crimes.”[2] And yet, uncomfortably, after the bombing, investigators hired by NATO and the UN scoured Kosovo for months and then. . .and then. . . .nothing: they produced zero evidence of ‘ethnic cleansing’ by Milosevic’s forces.
Surprised? I will explain and document everything in detail. But first, a parable.
One man shoots another, and the killer explains that he did it for “humanitarian reasons” because the victim was about to shoot somebody else. Of course, there is an investigation. Imagine that you are the detective and that you fail to find a gun on the victim’s body or anywhere in the vicinity. This appears to contradict the killer’s story. So you interrogate the killer again and he mumbles that maybe the victim threw the gun away. “After he died?” you suggest, with irony. The killer replies sullenly that he doesn’t know where the man’s gun is. “Perhaps somebody took it,” he adds. Some people corroborate the killer’s story but they all turn out to have hated the dead victim and had many reasons to want him dead.
If you are a normal person, then, since you are the detective, and this is your job, you grow suspicious.
Lab tests later reveal no traces of paraffin on the victim’s hands or anywhere on his clothing. So you question the shooter again about the victim’s supposed gun, and he then confesses that the victim did not really have a gun. “But he did have a knife, and he threw it at me,” the suspect retorts, adding, “I don’t know where the knife ended up.”
Do you become more suspicious? Of course you do. The shooter has completely changed his story when investigations turned up no evidence for his first excuse. Any detective who did not, at this point, choose premeditated murder as the running hypothesis for this event should turn in his badge, for he cannot reason from the obvious.
Okay, keep your detective hat on.
NATO first said it was bombing the Serbs on account of 100,000 murdered Albanians. And yet, after NATO dropped its bombs, this is all that seven months of looking for bodies (from June until November 1999) could turn up, according to Reuters:
“UN investigators have exhumed 2,108 corpses in Kosovo so far, but the true number of ethnic Albanian victims may be much higher, the chief UN [War Crimes Tribunal] prosecutor Carla del Ponte said on Wednesday.”[3]
Some people may be tempted to say, “Okay, so they didn’t find 100,000 bodies, but they did find 2,108.”
But did they?
Why should we believe the new figure given that the first figure — 100,000 — was nonsense? Our suspicion is rewarded. Notice what The Wall Street Journal said about this (my emphasis):
“the number of bodies…is…2,108 as of November, and not all of them necessarily war-crimes victims.”[4a]
Actually, one has to make the point more strongly: Del Ponte’s 2108 figure was simply the number of “exhumed corpses” (see above). It therefore included not only Albanian civilians, but also Serbian civilians, KLA combat deaths, Yugoslav army combat deaths, Serbian and Albanian NATO-bomb victims, Serbian and Albanian KLA victims. . . - everyone.
This means that only a fraction of the 2108 can be Albanian civilians. So del Ponte was misinforming when she said that “the true number of ethnic Albanian victims may be much higher,” as if the 2108 were even all Albanians.
Remember, the original claim was 100,000 massacred Albanian civilians. But we are now down to a mere fraction of 2108. Not much is left at all of NATO’s original allegation.
But have we touched bottom? Why should we assume that? Our suspicion is rewarded again. Sure enough, it turns out that the 2108 bodies are not even casualties that took place during the bombing, as NATO and the media were trying to suggest.
Let’s see. The NATO bombing began on March 24th, 1999. Before that date, NATO officially estimated that fighting between the Yugoslav Army and the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) terrorists, had resulted in 2000 deaths on all sides.[4]
I emphasize that this is NATO’s estimate before it began dropping bombs. Thus, if after the bombing the investigators could find only 2108 corpses, it follows that no more than about 108 people died during NATO’s attack. And this — again, please take good note — is all according to NATO’s and the ICTY’s own official numbers. In other words, these are the official numbers of those trying Milosevic for supposed ‘war crimes’ at The Hague (so, if anything, the numbers are inflated.)
And remember: since these are just “exhumed corpses” and therefore include everybody, the number of specifically Albanian civilian deaths during the NATO attack can be no more than a fraction of 108… That’s a very low number, not much higher than zero, and very different from 100,000.
And the question remains: who killed them?
NATO says Milosevic, but we have now grown much too suspicious to just believe anything NATO says. So we take that with a grain of salt, and investigate again. And once again, our suspicions are rewarded.
It turns out that NATO dropped bombs primarily on civilian targets, including convoys of tractors and cars full of…Albanian civilians.
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/freezer_app.htm
So NATO easily killed as many Albanian civilians as a fraction of 108.
But in case NATO needed some help, there is always NATO’s ally, the terrorist KLA, which several times proudly claimed responsibility for attacks against defenseless Albanian civilians when these did not cooperate with the KLA’s racist program of violence against Serbs.[5]
So what do we have, then?
Well, that, using NATO and the ICTY’s own official numbers, as of November 1999, this is all that could be said:
1. The Albanian civilians who died during the NATO bombing were no more than a fraction of 108.
and
2. NATO’s bombs and KLA terrorism can easily account for all of the Albanian civilian deaths.
Which means. . .what? That NATO did not produce evidence that even one Albanian civilian was murdered by Milosevic’s forces!
You, the detective, should now have the following running hypothesis: NATO had other reasons for attacking Yugoslavia, quite different from those stated.[5a] Why? Because the reason they gave was 100% of a lie.
The citizens of NATO states acquiesced in the destruction of civilian Serbia because their governments told them this was necessary to prevent an ongoing humanitarian catastrophe from getting worse. Since the body count in Kosovo shows that there was no such ongoing catastrophe, but rather that NATO bombing is what led to death and destruction, this is a spectacular embarrassment for NATO. Naturally, therefore, NATO does not want its citizens to know that their tax dollars were spent attacking civilians in Europe with excuses that were simply lies.
NATO’s problem
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And hence NATO’s problem. Because the whole idea was to have Slobodan Milosevic put on trial at The Hague for war crimes — not the KLA, and certainly not NATO.
You may well ask: why is this a ‘problem’? Why not just drop the charges against Milosevic and try NATO and its terrorist ally, the KLA, for war crimes?
But, you see, that’s not the function of the Hague Tribunal. It’s official name says it all: International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY). It was set up for the specific purpose of putting Yugoslavs — and especially Serbs — on trial, not NATO officials. This was made perfectly clear on 13 June 2000, when the Hague Tribunal announced that “no investigation [will] be commenced by the OTP [Office of The Prosecutor] in relation to the NATO bombing campaign.”[6]
The key word is “commenced.” The Tribunal was not saying that it had found NATO ‘not guilty’ of war crimes violations; it said that “no investigation [will] be commenced.” That is, the Tribunal would not ask the question.
Although unjust, this is far from being incomprehensible. The ICTY, after all, was illegally set up by NATO, it is funded by NATO, and NATO appoints the prosecutors.[8] How could the tribunal bite the hand that feeds it?
And given that the Hague Tribunal’s function is to help justify NATO’s attack on Serbia, we can see why in her November 1999 press conference, Carla del Ponte (above), The Hague’s chief prosecutor, appeared to express a hope (!) that “the true number of ethnic Albanian victims may be much higher.”
If one’s imperative job is to find Milosevic guilty for ‘war crimes’, one might assuredly express the grisly hope that the number of Milosevic’s civilian victims will turn out to be higher.
Higher than zero, certainly.
But del Ponte’s hoped-for corpses did not materialize, and by August 2000, as the UN and NATO forensic experts wrapped up their investigations, the total body count was barely higher and still…“under 3,000” (the exact number given was 2788).[7] And of these, given NATO’s official estimate before the bombing, no more than a fraction of 788 can be Albanian civilians, all of whom can easily be accounted for as victims of NATO and KLA activity.
Without the promised cartloads of murdered Albanians — or, more precisely, without apparently even a single Albanian civilian murdered by Milosevic’s forces — how was NATO going to get the Yugoslav president to The Hague?
NATO took a year trying to solve that one.
Solving the problem
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But then, ‘out of the blue,’ as they say, NATO suddenly ‘realized’ that Milosevic’s forces had used freezer trucks to haul thousands of murdered Albanians out of Kosovo, hiding the bodies in Serbia.
Presto! Problem solved.
Never mind that this ‘theory’ was patently absurd; never mind that before April 2001, in over two years of investigations, this ‘theory’ was never even heard of — not even hinted at; never mind that this ‘theory’ was ever so convenient for NATO, and that it didn’t appear until long after the forensic investigators had shown NATO accusations to be lies.
Never mind that not one shred of evidence was ever produced to back up this ‘theory.’
Never mind that this ‘theory’ was trotted out precisely at the moment when NATO demanded of the government it had installed in Serbia that they hand over Milosevic to The Hague.
Never mind. . .
On the ‘strength’ of this ‘theory,’ Milosevic was illegally abducted and sent to prison. The outcome was foreordained and did not depend on facts.
I know. You are thinking: “Why didn’t I ever hear about all this?”
Because in reality you are not a detective. You have important things to do, and you are quite busy. It is not your job to investigate whether NATO is telling you the truth. That job falls to the mainstream media, which you assume to be ‘free.’ So you say to yourself, if NATO is putting reality upside down, then anything so obvious will become a scandal in the media. Thus, trusting the media to be a good detective, and since no such scandal emerged, you assumed that NATO’s accusations had been just.
This is why, in order to understand what happened, the question of the media cannot be side-stepped. In the next section, therefore, I demonstrate what the media knew and chose to cover up (for a map of everything that follows, see below).
»» Continue to part 2:
http://www.hirhome.com/yugo/freezer2.htm
[End Quote from Dr.Francisco Gil-White]
Max Rosenthal - February 24, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Posted by: Dave | February 24, 2008 11:23 AM
The US only complainted the police came too late, they never complainted why the embassy did not have police protection ahead of the demonstrations. They knew in advance there would be riots or else they would not have the building secured with cia agents and us marines. I think they did not want to have serbian police protection. They knew there would be riots against the embassy. They wanted for serbs to fall into their trap and blame the serbian government. It was a setup!
Posted by: David | February 25, 2008 12:07 AM
Svetlana, I never had any doubt on the fact that Western secret services perhaps not the CIA and the MI6 (the MI5 is the domestic spy agency for the UK) have put together those attacks on Thursday night. I also feel very convinced that someone of that extraction killed the unfortunate Zoran Vujovic. I loved the peaceful rally, watching RTS, and luckily my girlfriend attended it and didn't have problems with what happened from about 6:15 pm. Even though she chose to walk for a part of her road as she went back home to Novi Beograd. That's something I didn't agree with. I'm eager to come back to Beograd and Srbija after over 3 years. It's been way too long. Too much work. Best wishes to all. KiM = Srbija!!!
Posted by: Marco Matta | February 25, 2008 01:21 AM
Remember "Remember the Maine!"? I urge everyone interested to go a-Google-ing:
Tonkin Gulf hoax is a nice recent case.
Now check this script:
Gleiwitz Incident: 31 August 1939 Nazis dress German criminals in Polish uniforms, transport them to Gleiwitz ~Gliwice (PL). They stage an assault on the station, broadcast a fake report the station is "in Polish hand". Attacks on German embassies are also faked.
Wikipedia:
"In order to make the attack scene more convincing, the Germans brought in Franciszek Honiok, a German Silesian known for sympathizing the Poles, who had been arrested the previous day by the Gestapo. Honiok was dressed to look like a saboteur; then killed by lethal injection, given gunshot wounds, and left dead at the scene, so that he appeared to have been killed while attacking the station. His corpse was subsequently presented as proof of the attack to the police and press."
On 1 September the NY Times announces Polish attack on Germany. The Fuehrer goes on radio to announce: "Since 0530 hours we have been firing back".
As for freezer trucks there's a weird resemblance to the German code-name for operation: "Fall Dosenfleisch / the Canned Meat case".
Posted by: j p mAHER | February 25, 2008 11:50 AM
"4international unity of Serbs and Jews" ?
Really?
Well, you can start by enlisting the following Serbophiles:
Morton Abramowits,Daniel Goldhagen,Richard Halbrook, Sandy Berger, Wesley Clark,Madlaine Albright, William Cohen, William Cristol (the one who wanted 'Serbian skulls crushed'), Thomas Friedman..etc
Or, just thought of some more, such as,
Bernard Henry-Levy, Andre Glucksman, Alain Finkelcrout and why not, Joan Baez (who was singing and playing to Alija Isatbegovic).(Susan Sontag died but she would have been an excellent charter member-RIP).And many others.
A perfect Society for Tadic, Jeremic or Ceda Jovanovic to lead.
BTW, all associations of Serbs which exclude Russia will prove to be fatal for them.
Posted by: Peter RV | February 25, 2008 12:26 PM
"4international unity of Serbs and Jews" ( Contnd)
Oh,I almost forgot three more stalwarts for this 'unity,
How about Sarkozy, Kouchner and Soros?
Posted by: Peter RV | February 25, 2008 02:20 PM
US = Military Impair, New Order, and Teror!
Posted by: Radomir Baturan | February 26, 2008 02:15 PM
Eight Marines were present in the US embassy
http://eastern-european-forum.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-post_27.html
Article here: http://www.politika.co.yu/rubrike/Hronika/Osam-marinaca-ostalo-u-ambasadi-SAD.sr.html
Posted by: JJ | February 27, 2008 05:52 PM
Peter RV,
Funny how you didn't mention our dear friend Julia Gorin (I suspect Svetlana would have BLASTED you if you included her in your list)
All of the names you have listed are either US, NATO or EU pro-Globalist NWO Capitalist Imperialists. Get your facts straight.They are all J.I.N.O. - "JEWS IN NAME ONLY".
Stranger still is how you failed to mention Tom Lantos, Elliot Engel, Benjamin Gilman, Steny Hoyer and Joseph Lieberman et al - all J.I.N.O as well.
They have NOTHING to do with what 4International stands for. 4International do NOT support these people and to claim that they are representative of ALL Jewish people all over the world is ignorant and prejudiced to say the least.
If you had indeed bothered to read the 4International site's articles as well as articles and comments by its editor-in-chief Felix Quigley and his colleagues Peter Robert North, Nathan Pearlstein, Andrew Brookes (Infidel Warrior), Joshua Rosenberg (JoshR), Max Rosenthal (enigmax) and Shlomo Baum on Canadian website Israpundit, you would have seen that ALL of them CONDEMN all of those people (especially George Soros) you listed for their anti-Serbian actions/policies.
Ask Svetlana and her friend Melana what she thinks of all the good people I just named on Israpundit and 4International. Ask her about Jared Israel. Ask her about Francisco Gil-White. Ask her about Julia Gorin. Ask Svetlana about all of the tireless work in the form of articles and research and lobbying all these good Jewish and pro-Israeli people have done over the last few years to help restore the good image of the heroic Serbian people in the United States, Spain, Ireland, United Kingdom, Australia and Canada.
Then Peter RV, compare it to the work YOU have done on the web (if any).Give me your web blog address and show me all the work you have done over the last few years defending the Serbs and Serbia.
Instead of your knee-jerk bigotry and hatred for all Jews (bordering on antisemitism), you should be THANKFUL and APPRECIATIVE of these good Jewish people on Israpundit and 4International for their tireless work in defending the Serbian people against US-NATO-EU Imperialism and for EXPOSING all of those corrupt US/NATO/EU Globalist Capitalist Imperialist J.I.N.O's you listed.
regards,
Dave
Posted by: Dave | February 28, 2008 10:16 AM
Absolutely, dear Dave, absolutely!
I can't stress enough how much gratitude we owe to our Jewish friends, some of whom Dave has mentioned, but also many more that have been supporting us all along. One should read about Israelis who have welcomed Srdja Trifkovic, Julia Gorin and Jim Jatras when they went to Jerusalem and asked for support for Serbs. Serbian Jews have also been extremely active and fighting for Serbia all the way (like Professor Leon Kojen, who was also Pres. Tadic's adviser and a member of the Serbian state negotiating team - an exceptionally intelligent, wonderful man, who resigned when he realized that Tadic, a f..ing Serb, is a traitor!) and I can't remember the name of the famous Serbian Jewish conductor and composer, university professor, who wrote a letter to American Jews during the civil wars in former Yugoslavia, saying: do not attack or smear Serbs, Serbs are beautiful people - I cried when I read that letter (I'll have to find it)....
I keep saying this over and over: please, please let us make an effort never to generalize and never to equate the whole nation or state with few rotten apples everyone has! This is precisely what we, the Serbs, have suffered from during past decades, to have all the Serbs labeled "murderous assholes", "rapists", "child molesters" and "genocidal maniacs" - do we really want to sink to that level and treat anyone like that?!
I understand the anger and frustration, and a lot of disappointment with having to go through another Golgotha with little or no help, and it is true that some of the most prominent Americans who were doing everything in their power to destroy and harm the Serbs, happen to be Jewish (in name ONLY, as Dave said), but they are in no way representatives of either Israel or Jewry in general and even if they want to be, we should never allow them to think they can represent such a dignified, proud nation that has suffered so much.
Joseph Biden who said "Serbs are illiterate degenerates, rapists and child molesters" is Irish, and he has had a help of quite a few Irishmen who, apparently, think the same - are all Irishmen pigs? Then, let's remember that Professor J.P. Maher, a great friend to both Serbs and Jews is also an Irishman.
What about the alleged Christians, like Bill and Hillary Clinton, Bush Senior and Junior, Mad McCain, Schroeder, Ruecker, Kouchner, Sarkozy, Blair or that fat greasy NASTY Nazi pig Helmut Kohl?! They're all Nazis, that's what they are!
No, this is not an issue of divisions between the nations and states, this is between those who are in the right and those who are in the wrong, regardless of the flag and one's colors, ethnicity, faith or citizenship. Each enemy has the first and the last name and no nation is a "nation of enemies".
Wonderful work, Dave, thank you for all the unselfish efforts and help (link added, under the "Based on Facts" subtitle on the right handside)!
P.S. As much as I'm trying to stay away from commenting (since, as Neil Craig said, I have all the big space above), I keep finding the reason to butt in... Please, let's try to be fair and careful not to offend people who certainly deserve much better (if I have written and done just one tenth of what Julia Gorin and Jared Israel have done and written, I'd be publishing a book now).
Posted by: Svetlana
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February 28, 2008 01:19 PM
Dear Svetlana,
well said!! I can hardly wait for Peter RV to reply. I think he owes both of us an apology forthwith.
Thank you for your wonderful support Svetlana!
Peter RV - NEVER, EVER forget this:
just because someone whom attacks the Serbs CLAIMS to be Jewish in religion and blood, never EVER assume that they are speaking for ALL Jews in the entire world, or for that matter,for the state of Israel. Most of the so-called "Jews" Peter RV listed ARE MORTAL ENEMIES OF ISRAEL & THE JEWISH PEOPLE!!
All those so-called American and European "Jews" Peter RV listed are nothing more than "New World Order" Globalist Capitalist Imperialists and mortal enemies of sovereign nation-states like Serbia and Israel!
Wesley Kanne Clark and Richard Holbrooke are two examples of this sickening, repulsive phenomenon. Two total despicable, Globalist NWO "murderous assholes" and WAR CRIMINALS deserving of the utmost contempt!
Keep up the brilliant work Svetlana, and remember: 4International's Felix Quigley et al, and Israpundit's Ted Belman and Nathan Pearlstein support your vital work in defending the heroic Serbian people and their wonderful homeland of Serbia against the forces of US/NATO-EU government "New World Order" Globalist Capitalist Imperialism and their proxies: Jihadist Islamofascism and Vatican-backed Roman Catholic Clerical Fascism/Nazism.
Kosovo-Metohija IS Serbia, AND WILL REMAIN SO FOREVER!!
best regards,
Dave.
Posted by: Dave | February 28, 2008 03:54 PM