Tomislav Nikolic About Radical Government

Truly radical—a politician who doesn't lie: Tomislav Nikolic at Serbian Radicals' Belgrade rally, May 6, 2008
Serbian Radical Party: The Facts
By Tomislav Nikolic, acting leader of the Serbian Radical Party and one of the most experienced Serbian parliamentarians, Washington Times
Sunday, Serbian voters will go to the polls to elect a new parliament. It is expected the Serbian Radical Party, which for some years has been Serbia's most popular and has held the greatest number of parliamentary seats, will form a new government, either alone or in coalition with other parties.
In such case, I am confident we finally will have a government that, unlike in the recent past, will have a unified position on the key challenges facing our country.
Rule of Law, European Integrations and Economic Liberalization while Preserving Serbian National and State Interests
Outside Serbia, this election often is portrayed as a choice between "pro-Western" parties determined to take Serbia "forward" toward "Europe" versus parties, led by the Radicals, looking "backward" toward "nationalism" and an exclusive pro-Moscow orientation.
This is not an accurate understanding of this election's importance. Rather, voters will choose either the direction advocated by the Radicals, in which rule of law, European integration and economic liberalization go hand-in-hand with Serbia's legitimate national interests, or they will choose an illusion of faster integration promised by other parties that would undermine Serbia's territorial integrity.
The latter choice would allow those same parties to continue business as usual, which has made their political leaders wealthy while most of our citizens struggle to pay for basic living necessities.
Tadic Offering Dangerous Illusions and Suicidal Jumps
Such parties, led by the Democratic Party of President Boris Tadic, rely on scare tactics and false promises to stay in power and hope Serbian voters won't be able to see the falsity of such tactics and promises.
In fact, the Serbian Radical Party is not at all opposed to Serbia's accession to the European Union. However, the EU's relationship with Serbia must be based on mutual respect and observance of binding international commitments, including all provisions of the United Nations Charter and the Helsinki Final Act.
Ultra-Nationalist? Based on What?
It should be kept in mind that Serbia is one of the most ethnically and religiously diverse country in Europe. Far from the "ultra-nationalist" label some seek to apply to our party, the Radicals have embraced Serbia's multi-ethnic composition. As we have demonstrated in our party and our participation in local government, significant minority representation will also characterize a Radical-led national government.
The Radicals' economic policy is based on the free market and Serbia's potential as the key economy of the Danubian and west Balkan region. Eight years after the end of the rule of Slobodan Milosevic, there has yet to be a push for the restoration of communist-expropriated property. Our party will insist on redress and other overdue free-market reforms that will create more favorable conditions for foreign direct investment.
At the same time, we will vigorously pursue our mutual interests with Russia, as symbolized by Serbia's participation in the South Stream pipeline project that will help assure Western Europe's energy supplies.
Both East and West is the Only Way Forward
Far from representing Serbia's supposed rejection of the West in favor of Russia, we will maintain a healthy diversification of our commercial relations, including those with Russia — as have Germany, Hungary, Bulgaria, Greece, and other EU and NATO members.
In building relations with all partners, East and West, the Radicals insist that Kosovo not be regarded as an exception to accepted norms of international behavior. Despite their professed intentions, the actions of some Western countries on Kosovo have not produced greater stability or ethnic peace and tolerance — in fact, the exact opposite.
Kosovo-Metohija Not for Sale
The Radicals reject any recognition of Kosovo's illegal claim of separation from Serbia and the dispatch of an EU mission to Kosovo precisely because these actions violate the very standards the United States and Europe claim to uphold, values the Radical Party and virtually all Serbs share.
Instead of further aggravating the situation in Kosovo and creating conditions for violence on the ground — to which Serbia would be forced to respond to protect our citizens and our spiritual and cultural heritage, as any other country would — the Radicals invite the West to return to the path of negotiation, compromise and the rule of law. This is not some kind of retrograde "nationalism." It is simple common sense and common decency.
This is the basis on which a new Radical Party-led government will extend the hand of friendship to the United States and Europe. We will expect nothing less in return.
Comments
Maj 11: Sa Bogom i srecom, Tomislave!
Posted by: bud | May 9, 2008 04:13 PM
The Radical Party has gone a long way to improve its image outside of Serbia but has not been aggressive enough in combatting the constant smear campaign waged against it by cetain sectors of the NATO Pact media. If a NATO Pact propaganda cell such as the BBC labels your party as "Ultra Nationalist" you react in form of a protest note immediately and without hesitation. Allowing them (or CNN or the NY Times) to repeat their nonsense without reaction is extremely damaging. The portrayal of the Radicals as a Far-Right party is simply ludicrous when their policies are that of a typical Euro center left party.
This is how I would classify each party:
DSS-NS/SRS - Center Left
DS-G17 - Center Right (Neo Liberals. Think Sarkozy, Blair, Berlusconi. Only serve the elite not the people. Failed model everywhere)
SPS - Socialists
LDP/Canak/Kostres - Far Right (a real danger to Serbia's social and political stability)
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Serbia wakes up to a Center Left government on May 12th.
Posted by: EUSSR | May 9, 2008 11:48 PM
Good luck to Mr Tomislav Nikolic from England.
I just trust that Serbs have the wit and courage to understand on which side their bread is buttered.
I also hope the Radical Party has taken extreme care to have plenty of members watching for election fraud.
Don't trust the pro EU mob. Its amazing how many votes within the EU and the so-called western 'democracies' end up 49.9 to 50.1 or thereabouts - always in favour of the NWO.
I hope you have paper ballots and sealed boxes and scutineers everywhere.
Please people of Serbia reclaim your dignity and self respect and stop fawning over the EU - a corrupt and rotten, evil dictatorship.
Do you really want Tony Blair as a 'new EU President' lording it over the country he bombed and near destroyed and against the people of which he committed mass murder - in fact an attempt at Genocide.
For goodness sake show some pride and vote for the Radicals or even Kostunica.
Elizabeth
Posted by: Elizabeth | May 10, 2008 12:48 AM
May God's Grace be with the Serbian nation in tomorrows election and let the US/EU trolls be driven out of office.
Posted by: joesixpack31 | May 10, 2008 08:46 AM
If the news coming out is correct - I am absolutely stunned.
How could the opinion polls be so wrong?
Could we please have an analysis of what happened independent of the EUSSR media wing.
Do we take it that the Serbs have as good as handed over Kosovo and betrayed their brethren therein?
I hope this is just misreporting but we have reports that Tadic has claimed victory.
Elizabeth
Posted by: elizabeth | May 11, 2008 01:57 PM
It appears that Serbs from Diaspora are wrong again once again, wrong in the previous presidential election, and wrong now, most wanted to see a coalition of Tomislav Nikolic’s SRS (Serbian Radical Party) with Vojislav Kostunica’s DSS (Democratic Party of Serbia), but Serbs from Serbia had a different need or were fooled once again into buying the pro-European lies. In reality it will be Serbs from Serbia that will lose the most with the support for a pro-European Serbia; they are supporting the fifth columnists, the enemies of Serbia. It also appears that this is also a generation gap, the values that were once valued are no longer valued, so losing Kosovo for a chance to be a member of EU, the same entity that destroyed Serbia or bombed Serbia in 1999, what are Serbs from Serbia thinking, it is anyone’s guess. I don’t foresee anything good from this election; this may lead to a civil war, just like it did prior to WWII. I am sure that the US and Germany are working hard on scenarios to amputate more land from helpless Serbia; this outcome will send a negative message to those that support Serbia, mainly Russia.
If a civil war would break out in Serbia which is very likely since the west once to finish the job of destroying Serbia once and for all, it will be Serbs from Serbia that will lose their lives in the war, not the Diaspora Serbs. If one looks at the history of Serbian politics from 1914 to 2008 one will see this same pattern being repeated over and over, and the Serbs from Diaspora always supported the opposite of what the Serbs from Serbia supported, and this pattern continues.
I am very confused as well as disappointed in the Serbian people, they were given a clear choice and they refused to choose peace and stability or to stand up to the tyrannical dictates of EU. They chose to forget Kosovo, so the curse of Czar Lazar will continue to haunt future generations of Serbs. They chose to continue and allow EU elite to dictate to Serbia, a shameful act.
So Serbs from Diaspora will be disappointed once again at the election results as well as the wishes of Serbian people, but then again Serbs from Diaspora, the ones that could influence the outcome did not partake in the current election, and thus the Serbian people were once again divided. Unless of course a coalition of SRS, DSS, SPS and few others can create a coalition which would dominate the government, and the first order of business should be to eliminate the foreign NGO’s influence in everyday lives of Serbian people, like television, news papers, etc. Stricter laws that would restrict NGO’s activities which are well known for anti-Serbian agenda should be implemented immediately. The Serbian Diaspora, the rich should try and help the government accomplish the above, and change laws to allow a more investments from abroad. Serbia truly needs to unite, and take control of their destiny, live up to the saying “Samo Sloga Serbina Spasava”…I wonder if this saying was ever true in Serbian history?
Posted by: Djindjic | May 11, 2008 04:22 PM
I foresee one more assassination, in a near future this time of Boris Tadic, the Djindjic replacement and a clear western stooge; it is just a matter of time.
Posted by: Djindjic | May 11, 2008 04:46 PM
It is now May 12 in Serbia. Wasn't there an election yesterday?? I have seen no results.
Posted by: joesixpack31 | May 11, 2008 10:16 PM
NATO Pact media misreporting of the Serb elections borders on the surreal.
The Center Left Coalition DSS-NS/SRS/SPS has won more than enough seats to form the new government. There are some minorties which could join them too for an even more emphatic win (SDA for example). 80+37+25 = 142. 126 is required. Tadic and his DOS "reformers" have ruled the same way for the last 8 years but now that his Neo Liberal Coalition (Canak-DS-G17-misc nutters) faces the same thing he is openly threatening physical violence against the Serb electorate. Tadic is a sick, dangerous individual.
Posted by: EUSSR | May 12, 2008 01:24 AM
We live in 'interesting times', regrettably.
My information says that Tadic is demanding the right to form a new government based on the fact that he won the most seats.....
But didn't the radicals?????......
Some parties seem to have greater 'rights' than others.
Well we will soon see where Kostunica really stands. Had he had the gumption to back Mr Nikolic as President this wouldn't be happening.
The increase in the Socialist vote is interesting So poor old Milosevic wasn't such a demon after all - at least 8% of Serbs and going up, are realizing something.
If I were the Russians today I would be rather peeved - Serbia has so many real friends it can afford to antagonise its best one. Well there you are!!!Gratitude. Maybe the Russians will be rethinking whether the Serbs deserve their defense umbrella. Who would blame them.
As for the betrayal of Kosovo committed by every vote for Tadic - unspeakable. I cannot imagine many counries or peoples who would sell out 15% of their country for such false gold and greed.
Elizabeth
Posted by: elizabeth | May 12, 2008 01:44 AM
Most people were expecting DSS-NS to be the kingmakers but it appears like Dacic's SPS holds the key. Will they form a natural government with the Center Left coalition or will it be Tadic's Neo Liberals, the thugs who betrayed Dacic's former Party leader, Slobodan Milosevic.
Posted by: EUSSR | May 12, 2008 03:19 AM
I would like to amplify the above-written commentary by Elizabeth.
The public opinion polls prior to the election showed the Radicals leading Tadic's party by 1 or 2 percent points, yet according to the latest information I received from RTS (Radio Televizija Srbija) in Serbia, Tadic's party was leading the Radicals by 39% to 28%. Looks some kind of hanky-panky was going on, like stuffing ballot boxes, destroying ballots, not counting the votes properly, hiding or destroying ballot boxes, intimidating or obstructing voters, bribing people to vote a certain way, bribing people to stay home and therefore not vote, early closing of voting stations, telling uneducated and uninformed people they were not eligible to vote and/or causing distractions to take people's attention away from voting. Of course, there may be other possibilities besides the ones I mentioned.
This discrepancy sticks out like a tree in a desert. The EU and the pro-European Serbian parties obviously have a vested interest in winning this election. And I do not doubt for one minute that they could find a way or ways to rig it.
If the final results show such a vast discrepancy, anyone with common sense and basic intelligence would know that the election was rigged, assuming that you allow + or - 3 or 4 points (usually 3) at most for polling errors, which is the generally accepted standard.
Posted by: stric simo | May 12, 2008 04:53 AM
Judas sold Jesus Christ for a few pieces of silver. So why you or anybody else be surprised at those who ARE NOT REALLY CHRISTIANS( tadic and his ilk) selling out the followers of Christ in Kosovo???
People all over the world are facing the rising beast of the anti-christ, the new world order.
Is it any wonder thatthe new President of Russia, Medvedev went right away to the Church of the Assumption for a Blessing from the Patriarch?? Russia stands right in the way of the beast. And the new President and all Russia will need the prayers of Christians.
The next American President, whichever one IT is, already serves the BEAST and will make MORE WAR against the Christians, especially the Orthodox ones.
Remember bill and hill loved ziggynu brzezinski, who has already declared that the enemy of the West ( America)is the Orthodox Church. Obama has ziggynu as an advisor and wants him back in the State dept. And, the old jerk mcCain, has already shown his love for the Orthodox Church by his support of muslim albanians who like nothing better than to kill the Orthodox Christians of Kosovo and destroy their Churches.
Oh yeah, times are getting "interesting".
GOD ALMIGHTY is in charge and I would not like to be anybody working against HIM. Their eternity will be anything but interesting.
By the way, I believe the west, America in particular is looking for cannon fodder for the new world order's wars against all who oppose the anti-christ's power and control.
By taking in soldiers from countries where the Orthodox Church is a majority church they actually are playing with a future trouble. How can the west be really sure that someday ALL the soldiers who are Baptised Orthodox Christians will be loyal to the west/satan's cause.
Now, THAT to me is an interesting prospect.... GOD IS IN CHARGE. He will turn all the anti-christ's efforts againg HIM to nothing.
I think some of us may live to see this.
Posted by: rosebud | May 12, 2008 07:57 AM
I have only seen an AP report that bases its prediction of Tadic victory on the vote count of an "independent" monitoring group. Who is this independent monitoring group? Could this be troll Jimmy Carter and his little "busy bodies" or maybe a bunch from the US state department. If so, these people should not even be allowed to enter the country at election time. They are highly accomplished in the techniques of election fraud and I would shoot them on sight rather than allow them to touch a single damn ballot.
Posted by: joesixpack31 | May 12, 2008 09:26 AM
OOOPS!
Correction to my last comment today: It is not "Mt. Athos (mythical residence of Greek god Zeus " but Mt. Olympus.
Posted by: bud | May 12, 2008 10:18 AM
Why are the foreign propaganda information organs such as B-92 and Soros Foundation not required to be registered as "Agents of Foreign Powers"?
Also, "radical" and patriotic parties need to be more active and agressive in promoting their visions of Serbia and to counter the foreign BS served by quisling media.
There is a saying that even a lowly streetwalker prostitute will draw the line as to what she will do for the money. Sadly, this is not the case of Tadic and his quisling whores.
Posted by: bud | May 12, 2008 10:26 AM
Nedojebane anyone?, Look forward to your children being raped,killed, by foreign troops being in srbija proper. extreeme? not at all but FACT!. Samo Sloga Srbina Spasava? i fear is dead and lost. MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY is the new saying ej?. Traitors vote for traitors gee no suprise there. why do you think they are keeping seselj locked up?, uh duh ne znam? if your a balije you might belive war crimes, its control! how do you think the last 6 years would be?. if seselj was out and in srbija?.
Too all my brothers and sisters who read and post here, and all people who support serbs and srbija. All our support doesnt mean sh*t!. now before you attack me slusej, a child knows right from wrong, but an adult given the freedom of choice cant even make the right choice. To vote for someone who has been hurting you for years is just stupid. its like making friends with the person who held you down to be raped by someone else. where is the logic in that i ask you?. I bet they didnt even count the dispora votes!. Amerikas dirty poltical tricks were used to very good effect in srbija. I will tell this , I am not serbian.
Bog Cuva Srbije
СА ВЕРОМ У БОГА СЛОБОДА ИЛИ СМРТ
СРБИЈА ЈЕ СРБИЈА
Posted by: БелиОраоСрбија | May 12, 2008 12:05 PM
Actually the "pro-european" bloc won 44% of the votes while the "pro-russian" bloc won 48% of the votes. This is not what I call a clear victory for DS. Tadic needs support from both the yellow LDP camp and from the socialist SPS camp to form a government. To imagine SPS and LDP in the same coalition is laughable. They don't agree on one single question. This coalition would not last long. SPS has much more in common with DSS and SRS, even though that coalition is not ideal either. A sign of which way SPS will choose was on the election night when (slightly drunk) Mrkonjic from SPS started singing the Russian folk song Kalinka on live Serbian television..
Posted by: Lars | May 12, 2008 12:51 PM
Srbija needs fast and increased population increse if it is to compete with other groups where votes matter, in the so-called "democratic process". (Just look what the shiptars are doing). For this there needs to be a new slogan for new a different times:Samo Seks Srbiju Spasava
Posted by: bud | May 12, 2008 12:59 PM
At the critical times for serbija, what are all these patriotic parties thinking about? We know what the Tadic and his quislings are thinking about, because they are direct even in their whorish BS. But why are other parties holding back and "triangulating" their positions? The issues were clear: Kocobo or EU gulag. And to this day the coalition of ruling parties has not formed a government! Which "4th world country" does Serbian parties want to imitate?
Posted by: bud | May 12, 2008 02:06 PM
Hello stric simo
Have you noticed that the overall vote is apparently reported 9% down from the presidential poll.
About the percentage missing from the Radicals voting figures according to opinion polls.
Coincidence or conspiracy.
As they say - 'you pays your money and you makes your choice' however if I were Mr Nikolic I would be making a few inquiries.
It seems just too convenient to suddenly lose some 9% - clearly Radical voters - in a matter of weeks.
Unless someone can come up with a clear reason for these folk to have abandoned their chosen party and sat on their hands I would say we have seen quite blatant foul play.
Surprised - no - the NWO have fiddled votes for years!!!
Perhaps Mr Nikolic should ask for an investigation - the facts certainly support that it would be reasonable to question what went on.
Elizabeth
Posted by: Elizabeth | May 12, 2008 02:09 PM
Republic of Serbia Republic Electoral Commission (RIK) as of 12.May.2008, at 10:30 pm, with 99.58% percent of votes counted of registered 6,721,312 voters and 60.97 percent voted, published the following results (not final):
Serbian Radical Party (SRS - Dr. Vojislav Seselj) received 29.36 percent (78 seats);
Democratic Party of Serbia (DSS) - New Serbia (NS) DSS-NS Vojislav Kostunica) got 11.59 percent (30 seats);
SPS-PUPS-JS won 7.60 percent of votes (20 seats);
Democratic Party (DS – Boris Tadic) received 38.44 percent (102 seats);
Liberal Democratic Party (LDP – Cedomir Jovanovic) won 5.24 percent (13 seats);
Bosniak coalition got 0.92 percent (2 seats);
Hungarian coalition received 1.83 percent (4 seats);
Coalition of Preševo Valley Albanian parties received 0.39 percent of the vote (1 seat).
P.S. Serbian Parliament has 250 seats, or 250 MPs. Whoever has 126+ MPs in the Serbian Parliament can form a new government. Radicals, Kostunica and Socialists together have 127 mandates and have begun talks about the new government.
Posted by: Branislav | May 12, 2008 02:24 PM
Hello Elizabeth,
Very astute and very insightful observation on your part. According to the information I have the final vote tallies were 39% for Tadic and 28.5 for Nikolic. That is a difference of 10.5%, very, very close to the 9% discrepancy that you wrote about.
I agree that Nikolic should initiate an investigation to explain this discrepancy. When you juxtapose this fact to the polling discrepancy, something is clearly wrong.
If someone else on this blog can come up with a convincing explanation, I will accept it. But once again, there certainly is the appearance of something wrong here.
You have to remember that this New World Order crowd are certified megalomaniacs. Don't put anything past them.
Posted by: stric simo | May 12, 2008 04:38 PM
I am surprised that Tadic did so well, when he was branded a traitor for signing the SAA document. It just shows that the diaspora Serbs support Kosovo and Metohija, the spiritual heartland of Serbia and 15% of Serbia's territory and NOT the Serbs in the homeland. The message I am getting is that Serbs in homeland along with a group of its clergy are prepared to close their eyes on Kosmet and choose uncertainty Europewards, whatever is on offer there! It could be crumbs or it could be a feast! Anyhow the message is becoming clear, Serbs are giving up their ROOTS. I wish all Serbs in the homeland lots of love, happiness, prosperity and peace and may all their dreams come true. I don't want to be a sore loser, I just wish to remove myself from giving opinions on politics or religion that I am unable to have and never have had any influence over as a diaspora Serb. This is now obvious.
p.s. Isolation comes in many forms!
Posted by: suze | May 12, 2008 04:45 PM
As Joe Stalin always used to say: "Elections are NOT decided by those that cast the votes but by those that count the votes."
Posted by: joesixpack31 | May 12, 2008 11:01 PM
Hello stric simo
Well I think the figures do need looking into and there is one thing that can be easily done as long as the figures are available on line or someone in Serbia is prepared to do a little checking out.
There should be figures available to show the turn out and votes at each polling place for the presidential election. There will also be the same data released for the voting in the parliamentary election. It should be relatively simple to compare the votes and numbers, one against the other, in every polling booth and therefore to identify where the lost 9% are.
A good political analyst should then be able to work out whether there is a possibility of the fraud which, frankly, on the face of it, looks possible.
Anyone willng to look for us? I don't have the language to do this myself.
Elizabeth
Posted by: Elizabeth | May 13, 2008 01:24 AM
If you were Nikolic, wouldn't you take every single necessary precaution you could think of to prevent vote corruption? I'd LIKE to believe that the majority of our people supported him but I am not so sure. I think our people over there are tired and desperate. They are desperate enough to think that Tadic and his EU promises will come to fruition.
Posted by: 4Cs | May 13, 2008 04:52 AM
Hello to all, especially Elizabeth and stric simo.
Regarding Elizabeth's suggestion, can someone PLEASE look into this..? I had a sick feeling when I saw the election results in the paper and strongly suspected fraud. There is no way it is not at least possible, given the (geo-politically) very high stakes, the suspiciously large discrepancy between polling and final results, and the West's track record on foreign elections (which is nothing less than dismal -- last year's Mexican elections may have been just one more example).
(And my Serbo-Croat is not good enough to help out either!)
Jonathan
Posted by: Jonathan | May 13, 2008 05:31 AM
I have a piece of evidence which appears to vindicate one of my assertions that Tadic's party might have bribed people to vote for them. The evidence is located at the following website: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7396363.stm
This is a BBC article entitled "Serb election: Readers' reaction". If you scroll down to the subcategory "Sceptical of Pro-EU bloc victory", there is an entry by a Serbian lady from Belgrade by the name of Milica Milivojevic. It is the fifth one down from the subheading. Her 2nd sentence is the following: "I heard that the Democratic Party [Tadic's party] bribed people to vote for them by giving them money and food."
She does not give any supporting evidence but it falls in line with the polling discrepancy mentioned in prior posts as well the 9% fewer voters statistical fact to show that the voting process might have been corrupted. It is certainly plausible. If true, the money undoubtedly would have come from the EU, America or plutocrats like George Soros.
Money is what drives politics in the Western world, especially America. They are all plutocracies in varying degrees. In most cultures money has a corrupting influence, especially for people who are in need of it. So the powers-that-be know how to use it to good effect.
Posted by: stric simo | May 13, 2008 05:42 AM
This is the generation gap I was talking about, the misinformed, uneducated, intellectually challenged individual, which would prefer to be a member of an organization that bombed and destroyed Serbia, that amputated 15% of Serbian territory, and is not done yet, there is still Vojvodina to remove from Serbia, how humiliating, yet to this individual it is this or nothing at all. Even the ordinary uneducated “Seljak” knows right from wrong, yet this European intellectual does not get it. What this individual fails to understand is that Serbia does not need to be tied down by EU beaurocracy in order to prosper economically and politically. Creating stronger ties with other regions is preferable, and an alternative to EU dictates. Russia has already showed its true friendship by allowing Serbia to make money from gas and oil, it will also provide security. I am speechless when I see Serbs that think like foreigners, willing to give up their cultural heritage in order to get a bread crumb being offered as a feast.
za Evropu! , 13/05/2008, 17:10
Neću da živim u Srbiji kojom će vladati kojekakvi nacionalisti, klerofašisti, intelektualno inferiorni i slični likovi. Evropa je jedini izbor! Ne zanima me Kosovski boj i slične izjave u odbrani srpstva, ratovi se više ne vode mačevima ili kopljima kao što mnogi u Srbiji još uvek misle. Nacionalni identitet se brani jedino jakom ekonomijom i pametnim potezima.
http://www.politika.co.yu/index.php?lid=sr&show=rubrike&part=list_reviews&int_itemID=42016
Posted by: Djindjic | May 13, 2008 08:11 AM
Za one koji su "za Evropu" kao Gpd. Djindjic: Kakvu garanciju Srbija ima da ce imati bolji zivot uz Evropu ako digne ruke od Kocoba? Sta Srbija moze da ocekuje od onih ljudi koji su je bombardovali i otrovali sa osiromasenim uranijom? Umesto Nemackih "Stuka" Beograd je osetio NATOvske rakete. Dali se moze ozbiljno ocekivati da ce Evropa pruziti Srbiji neki veci standard zivota nego sto ona pruza svojem narodu i onim "blizim" po istoriji i veri? Srbija je imala dobru ekonomiju pre prvog svetskog rata kada nije bila deo ikakve imperije nego sama i nezavisna. Njen zlatan dinar je bio jaci od Svajcarskog novca. Ne treba se bojati ziveti u Srbiji gde moze da vlada "kojekakvi nacionalisti, klerofašisti, intelektualno inferiorni i slični likovi", posto takvi likovi vec vladaju u Evropi, i vladali do sada. Ko je napao Srbiju nego novi varijanti bivseg fasistickih rezima, obuceni kao "veliki demokrati u borbi za ljudska prava"? Nije tacno da se ratovi vise ne vode "macevima i kopljima"; oni se vode modernim oruzjem gde je cilj ostao isti: Uplasi, , uceni, osvoji i porobi silom. Amerika nece da dozvoli ni jednoj grupi u Americi da digne glavu i proglasi bilo kakvu nezavisnost na svojo teritoriji, niti dozvoliti ikakvoj zemlji da proglasi "nezavisnost od Dolara".Pogledajte na Irak i skoro na Iran. Juce nam je EU Imperija uzela Kocobo; sutra Vojvodinu; prekosutra juznu Srbiju. Kakvu ekonomiju i standard zivota ocekujete da imate onda? Necete da imate ni pristojan zivot, ni nacionalan identitet, ni slobodu, ni sansu da napravite ikakav "pametan potez". Bicete po cizmama novih "poturica". Sto se mene licno tice, svako neka bira sopstvenu sudbinu, ali verujem da je izbor prema Rusiji bolji na duzoj stazi nego sa Evropom. Rusija makar nije bombardovala Srbiju u zadnjih 3 ratova!
Posted by: Budimir | May 13, 2008 06:10 PM
When one compares just finished parliamentary election results to those held in January 2007 and presidential elections held 03.Feb.2008, it becomes clear what really happened, rather then listening to the propaganda garbage targeting to further necrotize and narcotize Serbs everywhere and general public at large.
Even though the western media outside of Serbia and most of the media in Serbia (owned by west and of pro-western orientation) foams claiming that pro-EU demono-cratic option has won and that radicals have lost, that is a blatant lie, as usual.
In the last year parliamentary elections (January 2007) SRS (Dr. Vojislav Seselj) got 28.59 percent of the votes (81 seats). This time around radicals won 29.36 percent (78 seats) -- results not final.
Last year they received 1,152,854 votes and this year 1,194,029. The voting body has actually increased but they lost three seats.
If we compare these results with presidential elections (03.Feb.2008) where Mr. Nikolic won 2,177,872 votes, then it seems like there is a significant difference.
But you cannot compare apples and oranges. Choosing between twenty-plus parties in parliamentary elections and between two persons (two largest parties in the country) in presidential elections is not the same. The latter can be used as orientation only between the two parties and in absolute number of voters. Otherwise, we would have to conclude that radicals have lost one million voters in these elections, which is an obvious nonsense.
Crucial for further analysis is to note that SRS participated in the last and this year parliamentary elections ALONE and not in coalition with other parties.
Coalition around Mr. Kostunica, DSS-NS got 16.7 percent or 672,057 votes in last parliamentary elections (47 seats) and 11.3 percent or 463,996 votes (30 seats) in these elections (results not final). The loss of 208,061 votes, in one year, is the greatest amongst all the parties and coalitions participating in these elections.
SPS (Ivica Dacic) received 5.9 percent or 235,913 votes in last parliamentary elections (16 seats) and 7.9 percent or 321,908 votes (20 seats) this time (results not final). But last time SPS participated alone, as a single party, and this time in coalition with the help of PUPS and JS they managed to gain 67,995 votes more. This coalition will probably be the key deciding factor in creation of new and stable government and majority in parliament, as well.
DS (Boris Tadic) last year got 22.71 percent or 915,051 votes (64 seats) ALONE. This year DS was in pro-EU coalition (anti-Serbian) with G17 plus, SPO, LSV and SDP. They won 38.44 percent or 1,575,393 votes (102 seats) IN COALITION with four other parties, results not final.
By itself, alone, DS got 65 seats, which is almost identical with what they had before. If, in the case of DS on its own (as we did in the case of SRS above) we compare these last parliamentary elections results with the presidential results (03.Feb.2008) where Tadic, in second round, won 2,294,605 votes, we can conclude that demono-crats lost significant amount of votes.
How can anyone, after the above, claim that this demono-cratic Antichrist’s block is the winning one, and by what facts and criteria this ridicules statement could be supported or defended?! But their father is the Liar and with him they stand in lies.
LDP (Cedomir Jovanovic) last year participated in coalition with GSS, SDU and LSV and received 6 percent or 241,757 votes (15 seats). This year they were alone and got 5.24 percent or 214,752 votes (13 seats) hardly passing the five percent census level.
If you compare only the voters of LDP from last year (211,145) to this year (214,752) their voting body increased for 3,607 votes.
Negotiations in principal between SRS and DSS-NS coalition were successful, so far, and tomorrow SRS will talk to SPS-PUPS-JS coalition with good chances of reaching an agreement. This means 78+30+20 seats=128 seats and majority in parliament. It looks as one of minority parties Bosniac coalition (2 seats) might decide to be part of this victorious group, too. If this happens total seats for pro Serbian block would be 128+2=130 seats in parliament.
Posted by: Branislav | May 13, 2008 08:23 PM
Hello Branislav
Thank you for your excellent breakdown of polling figures and percentages.
I sincerely hope that your final sentence comes to pass - but I still have that original niggly question you might be able to clarify.
The opinion polls before the election put the Radicals at some 35% - they actually polled 29%. That is quite a large polling error. Add to that the turnout was, to quote, 9% down.
Now this is 9% down on the presidential poll, presumably. How does the turnout of Sunday compare to the last parliamentary election? Comparing apples with apples and not apples with oranges so to speak. Are there any opinion polls from last years general election to show that the Radical vote was 'soft'? Is it usual for some 9% of Serbs to turn out in one form of vote and not another? 9% is a lot.
And why the three seats less for a higher percentage of the vote. It cannot be a PR system so how are the seats allocated?
Excuse my ignorance but we don't get a huge amount of information and only being an English speaker its hard to pick up the finer details.
Elizabeth
Posted by: Elizabeth | May 14, 2008 12:27 AM
What happened to the blog? Why no update in the past five days? I, and many others I'm sure, visit this site regularly and have gotten used to your daily posts. Oh, well. Hope to see more soon!
As for these elections, I hope we won't have to sing the words from a great, great song: "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss."
Or WILL we get fooled again?
Posted by: Vlad | May 14, 2008 02:49 PM
RIK orders re-vote in three locations
14 May 2008 | 09:42 | Source: Tanjug
BELGRADE -- The Electoral Commission (RIK) has decided to repeat voting at three polling stations on May 18, due to irregularities on May 11.
Voting will be repeated at polling stations in Kraljevo, in the Kosovo municipality of Srbica and in the municipality of Žagubica, while results from one polling station in Čačak will be declared null and void without any re-vote taking place.
RIK upheld the objections over irregularities on Monday night. The complaint in Žagubica was filed by the Serb Radical Party (SRS) in Požarevac.
They stated that G17 Plus posters were located within less than 20 meters of the polling station, adding that G17 Plus’s candidate in the municipality, Ilija Šćepulović, was near the polling station all day, handing out promotional material.
The Kraljevo complaint was filed by a voter who noticed that the names of his parents had been circled on the electoral register even though they had not turned out to vote.
The vote in Srbica will be held again after a fight broke out in the polling station, causing material damage, with officials forced to close the station early.
The results in Čačak will be declared null and void after three extra ballot papers were found, leading RIK to decide that the vote should be declared invalid, since the problem concerned the statistics, as opposed to any objections.
Gee I wonder why that is?, f*cking traitors they should be hung right at slavija or maybe even from cica drazas horse in knez mihajlo. they will suffer the curse of Lazar, enjoy the peanuts they gave you jebem (picickotadic) majmun. It wont last forever. people of srbija wake the hell up!! the destruction of your country,history,culture, race is at hand. SRS is the only way of survival, tadic has brought you nothing. and will still give you nothing.
БОГ ЦУВА СРБИЈЕ
САМО СЛОГА СРБИНА СПАШАВА
КОСОВО ЈЕ СРБИЈА
СА ВЕРОМ У БОГА СЛОБОДА ИЛИ СМРТ
Free Dr Seselj, Milorad Ulemek, and all serbs illegally held in the hague. tadic ko kolacic haa haaa haaaa !
P.S.BBlog staff excuse my bad language,
Posted by: БелиОраоСрбија | May 14, 2008 02:50 PM
БелиОраоСрбија, I like your comments and your style, if I could just ask a friendly question. Namely: "БОГ ЦУВА СРБИЈЕ", isn't that supposed to be "БОГ ЧУВА"? There may be a reason for writing the way you do but I must have missed the point. This is not intended as criticism, I know you are a professional, I was just curious.
Djindjic: "Evropa je jedini izbor! Ne zanima me Kosovski boj i slične izjave u odbrani srpstva, ratovi se više ne vode mačevima ili kopljima kao što mnogi u Srbiji još uvek misle. Nacionalni identitet se brani jedino jakom ekonomijom i pametnim potezima." Evropa koja se pridruzila Americi upotrebljavajuci moderna koplja i maceve u obliku raketa, aviona, kasetnih bombi i osiromasenog uranijuma da bi slomila srpstvo jednom za uvijek je tebi jedini izbor? Nejac poubijana u ime Evrope i svi koji su izgubili zivote braneci svoju rodnu grudu su za tebe neznacajni? Svaka cast, nek ti je na dusu i na obraz ako ga imas.
Pod sapom Evrope Srbija nikad nece imati svoju ekonomiju niti svoj identitet vec ce biti rasparcana i sva imena mjesta promijenjena da ne lice na srpska.
Posted by: Bozidar | May 15, 2008 03:57 AM
I thought I had the second part of the above post deleted before posting after re checking the post I was commenting on and realizing that the part in question was actually a cut n' paste from some other comment. How did I manage to still send it is a mystery to me but still, I did it. Sometimes the speed reading can be tricky and I apologise for the error. Chances are that I sent both versions. It was not intentional but I'll have to wear it.
Once again, sincere apologies.
Posted by: Bozidar | May 15, 2008 01:26 PM
Brate bozidar, in response to your question, I was not raised reading and writing cyrillica. so there are errors in my spelling and wording even,Ja govorim tarzanki srpski :). However I am a member of Српска радикална странкa, and I do support a serbian kosovo and a serbian srbija. Its very sad that the west has its hooks sunk so deeply into srbija, brainwashing through media outlets, cutting out the heart of srbija, now they are trying to destroy her soul. I know my cyrillic isnt perfect, I know I need to go to cyrillica university(salim se):). bozidar brate moj, what I was trying to write is Bog Cuva Srbije.like I said before It is not perfect. I dont have cyrillica spellcheck JOJ! Aj took ne offense to jur qvestion :).
СА ВЕРОМ У БОГА СЛОБОДА ИЛИ СМРТ
КОСОВО ЈЕ СРБИЈА
СРБИЈА У МОМ СРЦУ.
Posted by: БелиОраоСрбија | May 15, 2008 03:46 PM
Excellent! I got it! I think? :) I agree with you:
БОГ ЧУВА СРБИЈУ
И ЗЛОТВОРИ ЈЕ НЕЋЕ МОЋИ УНИШТИТИ!
Поздрав!
Posted by: Bozidar | May 16, 2008 01:02 AM